Bush's Vietnam lesson: stay in Iraq

CRITICS of the Iraq war who compare the conflict to Vietnam have the analogy backwards, according to the US President, George Bush.

In what the White House billed as a major foreign policy address, Mr Bush was due to say yesterday that the lessons of Vietnam taught that America should stay in Iraq and not withdraw.

Terrorists cited Vietnam to predict the United States would run from the Iraq war, he was to say.

The address comes after Mr Bush offered only tepid endorsements of the Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, on Tuesday in comments suggesting a new distancing from the beleaguered Shiite political leader. Exerpts of the Vietnam speech - released early in an unusual move by the White House - show Mr Bush will say that the US withdrawal from Vietnam had dire consequences for the people in its region, and so would a withdrawal from Iraq.

"Here at home some can argue our withdrawal from Vietnam carried no price to American credibility - but the terrorists see things differently," the speech says. "Three decades later, there is a legitimate debate about how we got into the Vietnam War and how we left.

"Whatever your position in that debate, one unmistakable legacy of Vietnam is that the price of America's withdrawal was paid by millions of innocent citizens whose agonies would add to our vocabulary new terms like 'boat people,' 're-education camps' and 'killing fields'."

In the past, Mr Bush has tended to steer clear of analogies with Vietnam, which critics increasingly have compared with the Iraq war.

But White House counsellor Ed Gillespie said the speech would be the first of two designed to lay the rhetorical groundwork for a progress report to Congress in mid-September as part of the debate over the continued funding of military operations in Iraq.

"As we face challenges in Iraq today, we do so knowing we have done this kind of transformative work before and the benefits to America made the sacrifices worthwhile," Mr Gillespie said in a statement explaining the early release of the speech excerpts.

Yesterday's speech would stress how US "perseverance in Asia led to a freer, more stable and more prosperous continent," Mr Gillespie said.

At a summit in Quebec, Canada on Tuesday, Mr Bush said Mr Maliki's future was in the hands of the Iraqi people.

"Clearly, the Iraqi Government has got to do more through its parliament to help heal the wounds of years of having [lived] under a tyrant," Mr Bush said.

"People at the grass roots are sick and tired of the violence, sick and tired of the radicalism. They want a better life and they're beginning to reject the extremists," he said, adding in a direct warning to Mr Maliki: "The fundamental question is: Will the Government respond to the demands of the people?" If it does not, he said, Iraqis "will replace the Government".

In Baghdad, the US ambassador, Ryan Crocker, was downbeat in his assessment of Mr Maliki's ability to end sectarian warfare between Shiite and Sunni Arabs. He called progress towards national reconciliation extremely disappointing.

"We do expect results, as do the Iraqi people, and our support is not a blank cheque," Mr Crocker told journalists in the Iraqi capital. "We need to see results."

The comments were markedly harsher than past official US Government assessments of Mr Maliki, whose leadership is expected to figure prominently in a progress report that Mr Crocker will deliver to the US Congress by September 15.

Los Angeles Times

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Well in View of the Testimony given by soldiers I think Bush may be wrong in his assessment.

Take the time to read the following. Then think about what Bush is saying. Obviously he is not really considering what really happened in Vietnam.

Winter Soldier Investigation	Testimony given in Detroit, Michigan, on January 31, 1971, February 1 and 2, 1971
Sponsored by Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Inc.

Table of Contents

· Need for Investigation. Remarks by the Hon. Mark O. Hatfield of Oregon In the Senate of the United States, Monday, April 5, 1971.

• Opening Statement of William Crandell
• 1st Marine Division
• !st Air Cavalry Division
• Weapons Panel
• 3d Marine Division
• Racism Panel
• "What Are We Doing To Ourselves?"
• Prisoners of War Panel
• Miscellaneous Panel
• Third World Panel
• "What Are We Doing to Vietnam?"
• 25th Infantry Division and Public Information Office
• 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions and 173rd Airborne Brigade
• 1st, 4th, and 9th Infantry Divisions
• Americal Division
• Medical Panel
• Closing Statement of Don Duncan

http://www3.iath.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Winter_Soldier/WS_entry.html

MGH psychiatrist's work stirs debate

Backlash on bipolar diagnoses in children

MGH psychiatrist's work stirs debate

By Scott Allen, Globe Staff

No one has done more to convince Americans that even small children can suffer the dangerous mood swings of bipolar disorder than Dr. Joseph Biederman of Massachusetts General Hospital.

From his perch as one of the world's most influential child psychiatrists, Biederman has spread far and wide his conviction that the emotional roller coaster of bipolar disorder can start "from the moment the child opened his eyes" at birth. Psychiatrists used to regard bipolar disorder as a disease that begins in young adulthood, but now some diagnose it in children scarcely out of diapers, treating them with powerful antipsychotic medications based on Biederman's work.

Misguided standards of care

By Lawrence Diller

AS A doctor, I did the nearly unthinkable at a recent conference on bipoloar disorder in children. I charged another doctor with moral responsibility in the death last December of Rebecca Riley, a 4 -year-old girl from Hull. Naming names in medicine is just not done very often -- and I knew the personal and professional risks I was taking. Yet I felt compelled to name Joseph Biederman, head of the Massachusetts General Hospital's Pediatric Psychopharmacology clinic, as morally culpable in providing the "science" that allowed Rebecca to die.

Mind Control

Mind Control is something that has been on the agenda for many years. People can be brainwashed to do just about anything. Detainees in the prisons Bush has set up are being brainwashed as well as tortured. Many of the same things used in the MKULTRA experiments are used on them. If you get into researching this, we as a population around the world are also being manipulated and controlled as well.

Could they create a suicide bomber? Yes they sure could. They can create assassins as well.

Would they do that? Well of course why wouldn't they? I imagine they have Mind Control mastered on many fronts. They certainly have spent enough time and money on it and it seems to me that many of the prisoners are exposed to the same methods used in MKULTRA and other mind control experiments. Sleep deprivation, loud music, food deprivation, isolation, electroshock, sexual assault. Dr Cameron used all of these methods on his victims as well as drugs. He experimented on Canadians as well as Americans. He experimented on children as well as adults.

Mark Phillips
MK-ULTRA

Video 1 Of 4 The others are at the site.

Ex CIA agent talks about the MKULTRA experiments and why the CIA was formed. Project Paper Clip and things we all should know about. The videos are extremely enlightening.

Mind Control and the Media
Now this is interesting!

This covers a few things about mind control and some of the things governments have and are still doing to control the Masses.

MKULTRA

Mind Control Summary
The Secrets of Mind Control

The work of the mind control doctors did not occur in a vacuum. The importation of Nazi doctors to the US through secret programs like PAPERCLIP is part of the context. Mind control experimentation was not only tolerated by medical professionals, but published in psychiatric and medical journals. [24] The climate was permissive, supportive, and approving of mind control experimentation. BB 1

Dr. William Sweet [25] participated in both brain electrode implant experiments and the injection of uranium into medical patients at Harvard University. The 925-page Final Report. Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments [26] tells the story of radiation experiments, and their linkage to mind control. BB 1

Other sites

Code Name Artichoke Experiments for the CIA on Humans

Spotlight Documentary: Codename Artichoke - Secret CIA Experiments on Humans

After reading and researching this I came to the conclusion the masses of people had been experimented on Via the Welfare system. Many of the techniques used in many of these experiments were used on welfare recipients. It may sound rather perposterous but it is true. I have seen many recipients who have been mentally coerced by the system. It caused enormous stress and lack of sleep, lack of food, total hopelessness and what was done was to turn them in to complacent victims and it did just that. Most suffered from extreme fear or rage. Many had mental breakdowns. Every letter you received was a form of a threat. They were also turned into slaves. Work for welfare is slavery. Do it or starve and become homeless. You had no choice. Desperation was on your door step each and every day. It was definitely a form of Brainwashing.

Haiti

Haiti

The acclaimed documentary by journalist Kevin Pina - Haiti: We Must Kill the Bandits - continues its tour this weekend in Detroit before heading to London, Ontario. Featuring a hip-hop title track, the lyrics and beats of rapper Ali Aumeer and songstress Sara Marlowe capture the repeating history of U.S. intervention - to demonize the target population that would feed resistance to foreign occupation by labeling them "bandits" or "gangsters" and install a brutal coup government.

We Must Kill the BANDITS

Filmmaker Kevin Pina challenges the contemporary view of Haiti, revealing the hidden role of the 'international community' in Haitian politics. This provocative and lively film takes the viewer into parts of Haiti where few Western journalists dare to tread, and includes shocking footage of unreported human rights abuses, some which have been astonishingly conducted by UN forces. Pina's film stands out because it connects the tragic events in Haiti with what he assesses as foreign intervention designed to deter democracy. Learn the side of the Haiti coverage not seen in the corporate news media.

Video

CIA andTorture

The CIA's torture teachers

Psychologists helped the CIA exploit a secret military program to develop brutal interrogation tactics -- likely with the approval of the Bush White House.

WASHINGTON -- There is growing evidence of high-level coordination between the Central Intelligence Agency and the U.S. military in developing abusive interrogation techniques used on terrorist suspects. After the Sept. 11 attacks, both turned to a small cadre of psychologists linked to the military's secretive Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape program to "reverse-engineer" techniques originally designed to train U.S. soldiers to resist torture if captured, by exposing them to brutal treatment. The military's use of SERE training for interrogations in the war on terror was revealed in detail in a recently declassified report. But the CIA's use of such tactics -- working in close coordination with the military -- until now has remained largely unknown.

'Family Jewels' reveal CIA altered mind of four-year-old girl

EASILY lost, on page 425, in the mass of the CIA's notorious "Family Jewels" files is a short paragraph outlining "potentially embarrassing Agency activities".

"Experiments in influencing human behaviour through the administration of mind- or personality-altering drugs to unwitting subjects."

Of all the heinous acts committed by the CIA in the name of national security, these experiments, done on the agency's behalf by prominent psychiatrists on innocent victims - including children as young as four - may be the darkest.

"We have no answer to the moral issue," former director Richard Helms infamously said when asked about the nature of the projects.

The release of the Family Jewels documents revealed the CIA handsomely funded these real-life Dr Strangeloves and engaged pharmaceutical companies to help its experiments.

U.S. Vote Could Close 'School of the Americas'
Aaron Glantz
OneWorld US

SAN FRANCISCO, Jun 21 (OneWorld) - The U.S. House of Representatives is poised to take what advocates are calling a historic vote this week to close the largest U.S. military training ground for soldiers from Central and South America.

The vote comes on the initiative of Congressman Jim McGovern (D-MA), who has offered an amendment to the Foreign Operations and Appropriations Bill that would prevent any U.S. tax dollars from funding the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation.

Torture School

On Thursday night at 11:52 PM, Congress defeated the McGovern/Lewis amendment to cut the funding for the SOA/WHINSEC by a margin of six votes.